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Stork
05-02-2021, 04:59 AM
Is Stuyvesant better than Hunter, Any thoughts?

YIGABA
05-08-2021, 07:43 PM
I have a senior in Stuy and a sophomore in Hunter. My son hated every second in stuy and my daughter has been happy since her fist day in hunter. My third kid has an offer to Brooklyn tech but we are still waiting for LaGuardia results because that's where my daughter wants to go.

MBNar
05-09-2021, 06:15 AM
Is Stuyvesant better than Hunter, Any thoughts?

They are both great schools. So much depends on your child and what they are looking for. Assuming your child is at HCHS now, what are your/their reasons for wanting a change?

Chemist
05-09-2021, 08:59 PM
I have a senior in Stuy and a sophomore in Hunter. My son hated every second in stuy and my daughter has been happy since her fist day in hunter. My third kid has an offer to Brooklyn tech but we are still waiting for LaGuardia results because that's where my daughter wants to go.

I would caution you against enrolling your daughter at LaGuardia. The principal just announced the cancellation of AP classes in the name of equity. My kid got into Stuy and is 99.99% certain to get admitted to LaGuardia (cannot discuss the details). We are choosing Stuy.
The current admininistration of LaGuardia effectively managed to send a strong message to kids who are both academically and artistically accomplished that they are not wanted. This is the sad reality we have to accept.

GregsTutoringNYC
05-10-2021, 02:08 PM
Is Stuyvesant better than Hunter, Any thoughts?

They are both great schools. Note that Hunter starts in Grade 7 and is affiliated with CUNY and I believe also Columbia too. Ofc Stuy is downtown and Hunter uptown. Both are Ivy League feeders. Hunter is more humanities based while Stuy STEM, but Hunter is still strong on math, etc and Stuy is still strong on ELA, etc. Hunter class sizes are typically smaller than Stuy. Stuy tends to get known for being stressful but that could be applicable to Hunter too, and, it depends upon you much pressure you add (many AP classes vs none, etc.).

GTheadache
05-25-2021, 11:41 AM
Any way to see where the graduates from Stuy & Hunter ended up from the class of 2021? I know I've seen this listed somewhere for Hunter but this was years ago and I haven't seen any listing of the graduates and their respective matriculated undergrads recently.

GregsTutoringNYC
05-30-2021, 07:46 AM
I've seen such lists in the past as well, IIRC from their respective websites, though you may have to dig some to find where. Both lists were impressive so may not be too much to grok except the obvious.

henry choi
08-05-2021, 09:42 AM
Both Great Programs! Take a look at his site that centralizes much of the info regarding High Schools and where their graduates end up.

https://www.insiderpal.com/

henry choi
08-05-2021, 09:50 AM
https://www.insiderpal.com/

https://polarislist.com/

2 sites that scrape and compile matriculation data of where Elite Universities are looking in terms of High Schools for their incoming classes

metadoc
10-05-2021, 06:25 AM
Chemist is correct. The school caved to pressure from the Chancellor to dumb down academic admissions requirements, by allowing 2s on the state tests, if the art scoring was high on audition. Then they proceeded to diminish the number of AP classes available and limit the number students can take in lower years. Still, upperclassman can take 3 AP courses per year, which is likely sufficient.

D25Mommy
10-05-2021, 07:20 PM
Chemist is correct. The school caved to pressure from the Chancellor to dumb down academic admissions requirements, by allowing 2s on the state tests, if the art scoring was high on audition. Then they proceeded to diminish the number of AP classes available and limit the number students can take in lower years. Still, upperclassman can take 3 AP courses per year, which is likely sufficient.

The mission of LaGuardia is to provide rigorous, conservatory style performing arts training, with strong academics for those students who desire it (while others get a regular high school education). The school is NOT supposed to be another Stuyvesant, just with a bunch of art, dance, drama, and music classes. I am no fan of what is currently going on in New York education, but it is absolutely unfair to say that the Chancellor caved and dumbed down the academic admissions requirements. Rather, the Chancellor caved to pressure from students, parents, alumni, and notable figures in the performing arts world to reverse a disturbing trend of “dumbing down” the arts requirements in favor of admitting academically strong but artistically weaker candidates. I absolutely think that LaGuardia should admit an okay student (2s on the state test) with a high scoring art audition over an academically strong (4s on state test) student with a mediocre or even average audition score. The school was designed for the former. The latter has eight specialized academic high schools (and numerous other academically screened schools) to chose from. Leave the arts schools to the artists.

It’s like comparing Juilliard to Harvard and criticizing the former for not choosing students with the highest SAT scores but instead completely relying on audition results when making their admission decisions. Both schools are equally competitive and difficult to get into, but they serve completely different missions and educational goals, and appeal to a different set of students. Neither is better or worse. They are—and should remain—different in who they appeal to. I don’t think anyone here would realistically argue that Juilliard has “dumbed down” anything when it choses its students solely on art portfolios. Same should apply to LaGuardia.

As for the availability of APs… I don’t think we should use AP classes as any type of measure of academic rigor. That curriculum is a money making racket for the College Board that just forces students into a pointless race to nowhere but useless busy work. Those classes have little to do with actual college work.